EBC Brakes Review – Redstuff Ceramic – 3000 Series – For Highly Tuned Cars and Fast Street
As EBC’s flagship street brake pad material for prestige and faster cars above 200BHP the 09 version on EBC Redstuff sets new standards in brake performance. Redstuff has always been known for its low dust ability but the latest blend has greatly reduced the phenomenon of pad “Pick up” or disc scoring and reduced dust even further.
Tested at the UK Motor Industries Research Association (MIRA) in witnessed tests early Redstuff reduced car stopping distance in tests by almost 50 feet from 100 MPH offering a staggering 30% brake improvement.
Redstuff however as a harder compound does take longer to fully bed in to achieve its highest levels of performance (can be up to 1500 miles/2500 Kms urban use) during which time the odd “Chirp” of brake noise may be heard when starting from cold in damp and cold conditions at walking pace speed. One press of the pedal to clear the rotor of any dampness and this disappears to leave EBC Redstuff a brake pad that inspires confidence in all cars. The motto is be patient give the pads a full chance to bed down.
The Complaint
To Whom It May Concern:
I purchased a set of EBC brakes from Summit Racing. My husband called Summit when they had 180 miles on them (exceeding the mileage the instructions indicated for the break in period) about them continuing to squeal like the worn out pads we bought the EBC’s to replace. We were instructed to drive more than 200 miles and call back. We went to vacation at the beach and put another 1000 miles on the brakes and they continue to squeal. When he contacted EBC again, they instructed him to send this email to you as it sounded as if the brakes were defective.
Please contact me as I would like to return the brakes. I can not afford to pay in excess of $200 to continue to have a squealing brakes.
Thank you in advance,
Misty Davis
The Solution
OK Misty, let me give you some news…..
We have been making changes to Red all spring, due to its hardness Red took the longest time of any of our compounds to bed in, up to 1500 miles.
People just wont wait that long.
The latest material is called DM 2026, I bedded this in on my :Lexus GS 300 in 200 miles and it is flawless.
I am making you both front and rear sets in this and will have them you in 10 days, I just need an address and then would really appreciate your feedback
The parts are DP 31764C and DP 31788C
The Conclusion – Happy Customer!
I apologize for not getting back in touch with you sooner regarding the new brakes that you sent. They are SO much better than the previous set. The break in period was about 500 miles. In addition to the reduced squeaking noise during the break in period, they stop the car MUCH better. Again, I apologize for the delayed feedback but I really appreciate the new set of brakes. I am very pleased with the purchase.
Misty Davis
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Comments
This blog is about Redstuff which is definitely NOT for trucks. The correct EBC compound that will be perfect for what you need is the EBC Yellowstuff. Please give it a try and let us have your feedback.
Thank you!
I have replaced both brake discs and pads, on both front and rear, of my Mercedes ML430 with EBC Slotted Sport Discs (GD1102, GD1103) and Redstuff brake pads (DP31395C, DP31363C). I have now driven more than 200 miles but the loud screeching has not gone away or even reduced. It has become embarrassing to drive this car. Please can you advise? Is there an official site/shop where the actual installation can be verified for correct fitting? Thanks in advance, Rana
Hi Rana,
Redstuff brakes needs at least 500-1500 miles to bed in properly and be noise free.
The squeal you are experiencing will just stop one day and is unlikely to return.
Try some very hard braking and see if that solves the problem or if after 1500 miles the noise is still there we would advise that you exchange the Redstuff brake pads for our Yellowstuff brake pads which is our recommended upgrade for this car.
Thanks
Andrew Bartosiak
EBC Brakes Automotive Technical Expert
I just installed new ceramic brakes with new oem rotors on my bmw 545i 2005. They squeal like crazy when the brakes are cold. Is this normal? Will the ceramic brakes stop squealing? I tried the bedding in procedure 3 times 8-10 60 to 10mph stops.
Hi!
The bedding procedure is normal braking for the first 200 + miles up to around 500 or when the brakes start to feel as though there is some bite to them.
You should not perform the sort of braking as you describe this will just overheat the material before it has had time to bed properly.
Any squeal should usually stop around the 1000 mile time.
Thanks
Andrew Bartosiak
EBC Automotive Technical Expert
1000 miles to break in Red Stuff pads will work, but that makes no sense. Here is how to stop Red Stuff pads squeaking in one day: normal stops for 2 miles. 60-10 stops twice. 100-20 x 1 and drive home and stop and rest for two hours without parking brake on (use something behind wheel to stop your car from rolling). When cold, go out again. Brakes should be squeaking like mad now. Do 60-10 once then 3 x 100-20 (your brakes should be smoking like crazy and that’s OK, just do NOT hold the brakes onto the disks at any point while the disc is not moving. Go home and rest. Two hours or more later, repeat the last cycle and rest. The next time you take the car out there will no squeaking. Full stop.
By the way, the 100-20 and 60-10 stops should be very hard braking. So hard that the ABS almost kicks in. Ensure you stick to a local track where such speeds are legal.
I have a 1999 F-250 Super duty truck, 7.3 Power Strock Diesel, with all the extra’s, exhaust brake, reworked turbo,
Chip. and gear vender transmission behind ford’s automatic
four speed overdrive. I pull a 35 foot 5th. wheel trailer
and I’m not real happy with the stoping power. I have
ceramic brake pads on the front. I live in No. Calif. and
I am in and out of the Sierra Mountains with this unit. The
Trailer weighs about 14,000 lbs. fully loaded. Can you
sugest better breaks. Thanks for you thoughts Ed Vollmar